In an effort to
cause less confusion – remember that chains of emails – in between segments
– start at the bottom of that segment
One thing that
John knows, he must do is surround himself with solid “partners” … which
of course starts with Lara.
Cyril Dowling,
John O’Brien & Terry Lauzon on the school
Following, you
will see David MacDonald, Steve Dow, Tony Liuzzo
Sent: February
28, 2005 1:16 PM
Subject: Re:
Liberal Convention Rally
Quoting canadians@march4marriage.ca:
LIBERAL
CONVENTION MARRIAGE RALLY:
Rally outside
the Ottawa Westin Hotel (Colonel By Drive) on Sat. Mar. 5, 11:00AM to tell
the Liberals what we think of their policies. Marriage Bus will go to MP David
McGuinty's riding office on Kilborn Ave at 2 pm for a protest.
Song for March
for Marriage!
http://www.davidmacd.com/lyrics/one_man_one_woman.htm
Click on the
button on the top right hand corner to download and listen.
canadians@march4marriage.ca Sent: March 1,
2005 12:27 AM
Hi Scott,
I'll work up a
mockup and send it over to you tomorrow. Do you know of any printers in Ottawa
that would give us a deal and do a good and fast print job.
I will ask
around. Maybe my parish's printer
can help out. This is their
website: http://www.mprint.net/index.htm
… I will ask our parish priest to ask them for a deal.
How many people
can you safely say will be there?
106,086. That's
the number that will be there. If
you want to print less, that's fine. But
if you want to know the exact number, that's it.
If you want to print half, hoping that people will share, that's an
option.
Regards, John
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Scott,
Can you fit this
on the back of the card - even if it's in small
print?
1. E-mail your
MP and other politicians by Using 1Clicklobbyist.ca
2. Write to your
MP at Parliament Hill.
3. Phone your MP
every day.
4. Meet with
your MP in small or large groups.
5. Rally at your
MP's offices - Time: 1-2pm; Dates: Sundays: Apr. 10, 24; May 8, 22
6. March in your
city. Register with March4Marriage.ca to get the word out on your march!
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
I understand
what you're saying John but don't we pay people with our tax dollars to pick up
litter on the Hill - actually those are probably the tax dollars that are being
put to the best use on the Hill. If I had to make a choice between leaving a
bunch of cards on Parliament Hill and giving 100,000 people the opportunity to
write some letters to their politicians - I'd pick the letter writing.
Let me know if you want to do it - we'll pay for the cards and have them
printed right there in Ottawa - but we'll have to get it started tomorrow.
The other benefit is you will be able to gather a list of people that
have come out to the protest and let them know about the next initiatives, etc.
Thanks Scott
Sent: Monday,
February 28, 2005 7:41 PM
Not sure, Scott.
Let me think about that one. My
only concern is litter.
Quoting Scott
Dow:
That sounds
great John. What you think if we printed up 100,000 business cards with a simple
message to go to a website (our 1-Click Save Marriage) where they can take a few
minutes and send off letters to their MP, MPP, Prime Minister, Justice Minister,
Opposition leaders and anyone else they want to add. Do you think that those
cards could get distributed throughout the crowd?
Scott
Sent: Monday,
February 28, 2005 11:58 AM
Thanks, Scott.
106,086.
That's the
number that is going to show up on Parliament Hill.
Quoting Scott
Dow
John - we'll put
the announcement into our email newsletter this week that goes out to 50,000
people. Keep up the great work! We're gaining momentum! Scott Dow United Mothers
& Fathers
Sent: Wednesday,
February 23, 2005 1:39 PM
Scott,
I need you to
help me in anyway you can in getting the word out for the March.
Sent: March 1,
2005 12:25 PM
Dear friends,
Tomorrow is an
important day in trying to garner momentum and support for the March.
Please pray from 11:30-12:30 for the success of a conference call I will
be participating in.
Prayer has
gotten us this far along, and I am sure it will carry us the rest of the way.
Regards, John
p.s. I need some
French speaking people to help me to encourage the French speaking parishes in
the Archdiocese of Ottawa to come out. If any of you speak French or knows
people who would be willing to call 10 parishes, let me know.
Thank you and
God Bless you all.
canadians@march4marriage.ca Sent: March 2,
2005 2:53 PM
Greetings
everyone,
My conference
call went well today. I am very hopeful and things are moving nicely along.
However, there
is the issue of money. I am
planning to be able to collect donations outside of Parliament Hill to cover the
costs, and I am sure we are going to easily surpass any costs that we incur.
In the mean
time, however, I need people and organizations to step up to the plate and be my
insurance policy just in case we don't collect the money (which is remote).
I figure $6,000
to cover costs and another $5,000-$6,000 advertising budget.
Let me know if
you can pledge to cover some of this amount.
Regards, John
Pacheco March4Marriage
Sent: March 3,
2005 11:06 AM
Current
donations pledged:
$3200 - two lay
people $200; 1 Catholic Priest - $3,000.
This pays for
the sound system.
Other costs:
Toilets / Talkies/Vests / Truck Rentals / Ambulance / Advertising Budget
Amounts over
$100 are possibly refundable depending on how much we collect at the rally and
through other means.
Please see
attached cost of ad in Ottawa Citizen. Half
page ad costs $6500 with tax on a weekday.
Other possible
advertising avenues...
CFRA radio /
CHRI radio / Cross Roads TV / Liberty Radio / Toronto Radio Stations – Tony
Catholic
Register / National Post
canadians@march4marriage.ca Sent: March 4,
2005 9:38 AM
March 2, 2005
To:
Mr. Charles Hubbard
Member of Parliament for Miramichi
310 Justice Building
House of Commons
Ottawa, Ontario K1A 0A6
Mr. Jason Kenney
Member of Parliament for Calgary Southeast
House of Commons
Ottawa, Ontario K1A 0A6
Mr. Pat O'Brien
Member of Parliament for London-Fanshawe
House of Commons
Ottawa, Ontario K1A 0A6
Gentlemen: Re: Proposed Civil Marriage Act
I was born and
raised in Canada and have lived here most of my life.
I am a
vociferous opponent of same-sex marriage and the proposed Civil Marriage Act.
In fact, I was
present in the Public Gallery on Monday, February 21, 2005 during the exchange
between Mr. Paul Macklin and Mr. Hubbard. As
well, I heard Mr. O'Brien's impassioned speech supporting the traditional
definition of marriage.
I commend you
both for your honesty, integrity and bravery.
Spurred on by
Mr. Hubbard's comments then and in the newspaper the following day, I have done
some thinking about the relationships as cited in the Civil Marriage Act and the
Marriage (Prohibited Degrees) Act.
Bearing in mind
that I do not have any legal training, in addition to the possibility of
brother/ brother and sister/sister marriages I believe there exist other
possibilities such as stepmother/stepdaughter, stepfather/stepson, foster parent,
guardians, godparents, native tribal relationships and other kinship bonds.
They do not appear to be excluded according to the
Marriage
(Prohibited Degrees) Act.
These would not
only have a staggering financial impact on our country but also be financially
discriminatory toward heterosexual mother/daughter and father/son relationships.
There is also the repugnancy of having the stepdaughter (now spouse) being the
stepmother of a natural child of the
woman.
I offer the
following example: A woman marries a man who has one natural daughter aged 18
years. They reside in Ontario.
The man dies and the stepmother and stepdaughter continue to live
together while she finishes school.
Let's assume
that the woman is a public service employee and upon retirement would receive an
annual pension of $24,000. To leave
her stepdaughter with financial support, they marry before she is due to retire. She dies and her spouse (stepdaughter) is entitled to 50% of
her annual pension amounting to $12,000.
Assuming that
she does not remarry and lives to the average life expectancy of 81 years, she
would collect $756,000. (63 years x $12,000)
The natural
daughter of a woman in the same position would receive a maximum of $120,000
($24,000 annual pension x 5years) payable over a period to age 25.
Notwithstanding
the cost of money and inflation, if only 1% of our population (300,000) were in
this category, the total cost to the country's
pension funds would be $226.8 Billion.
Also, there is a
discriminatory differential of $636,000. ($756,000-$120,000) for which I am
certain an indeterminate number of women would seek financial redress.
The total cost
to the country and the country's pension funds could be measured in $Trillions.
Although the
religious, psychological and anthropological considerations are the most
important, I believe that the financial impact is the argument, which affects
everyone.
Further, In the
Civil Marriage Act, section 3 states "It is recognized that officials of
religious groups are free to refuse to perform marriages that are not in
accordance with religious beliefs."
Comment
It is the
individual's beliefs, which are protected here and not the beliefs of the
religious groups.
The individual
could use this as a defence under this legislation, if one's individual beliefs
do not coincide with the religious groups'
In summary, the
financial picture I have illustrated exists even today without the passage of
this legislation because of the provincial court decisions.
This surely would be grounds for having them quashed.
THIS IS CANADA-CIDE!
Yours very truly, Tony Liuzzo